Stepchild Headless Horseman - 2011

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Milly on December 23, 2010 at 03:47 PM

John,

The waist width for the 154 is 250mm and the 157 is 252mm if I remember correctly.

I’ve not been on any serious slopes on my 154 - indoor and snow covered hills and sandunes only - so not sure as to any heel and toe drag when carving, but I wouldn’t imagine that this would be the board you’d chose for serious speed and euro carves.

I have a pair of 09/10 large Burton Mission bindings on it, and my stance is such that I’m on the second to last binding positions running 15/-15 riding regular.  The toe pad on the bindings is kicked out slightly (one click if not two)and it is within the edge of the board by 1-2 cm’s.  This is from memory since I’m in work, but I have spent a while playing about with the stance and angles more so than with my wide 159 burton mayhem (since I didn’t have to due to the extra width) so I hope its correct.

I should also note that my size 10’s are a pair of 32s who seem to make the only boots that I find comfortable due to the wideness of my feet and so the footprint in terms of width may be different to your Burton boots (I’ve found Burton’s a bit too snug), but yours should be smaller from toe to heel, thereby eliminating any problems.

I had to order my board since no shop appears to be stocking it - not TSA, not Magic Toast and not your local snowdome places - and was informed back in November that there weren’t many left. I think mine was the second to last 154 in the UK, according to the distributor.

There are plenty in the US though, places like Dogfunk have them, but then you’re paying over the odds for the board due to the weakening pound, the import costs and shipping.  My board cost £365, while the everything sucks, the jibstick and the latchkey cost quite a bit less.

I love it because of the way it makes everything so much easier, and it makes me a better boarder. Yes, it requires less effort than a cambered board and so some look down on you, but I’m old, and I don’t have the natural ability of the young uns so I need all the help I can get.

Oh, and I’m still loving the graphic.

Milly on December 29, 2010 at 02:50 PM

I’ve been looking around for mates who want the same board - annoyingly - and saw that Magic Toast has the 157 in stock and includes all the size details.

http://www.magictoast.com/ProductView.aspx?ProductID=71108&BrandID=0

John Webb on December 31, 2010 at 11:11 PM

Hey Tom, Milly,

I phoned Magic Toast Christmas Eve, having seen the board listed on their website and showing as in stock! They confirmed that they had 2, so I drove straight there to get 1 :) We set the board up with Flux SF45 bindings, and thirtytwo prion fasttrack boots :) I have spent the last 3 days at X-Scape on the snow getting to know the board. It is absolutely exactly what I was looking for, and as good as described (if not better) - Carves brilliantly on hard pack, ice, and through soft mounds of powder, both switch and regular, and I didn’t catch an edge once, even on some daft landings where I hadn’t rotated fully through 180! Anywayz, thanks for the recommendation and for all your help. Much appreciated - Can’t wait to get to the Alps in Feb.!

Cheers Guys, have a good1.

Tom Ewbank on January 01, 2011 at 02:16 AM

Hey John,

I love it when a plan comes together!

Great choice of board; just wait ‘til you get it on some real snow!

Tom

nvansluy on March 10, 2011 at 06:01 PM

So I have to ask, since you raised the issue in the review - Grip or HH for all mountain killer?

D on August 24, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Hey guys,

Really looking forward to your review of this years FTW. Just wondered what your thoughts were on someone riding the 157 (251ww) with size 11 uk feet, think I can get away with it….really want the board but would I be better on the jibstick 156 (256 ww)Also,how do the two boards compare? Keep up the good work gentlemen.

Rich Ewbank on August 24, 2011 at 11:53 PM

Hey D, Not sure about a waist width of 25.1cm with size UK11 feet, sounds like a lot of overhang to me. I think you’d be much better off on a wide board. Regarding the JibStick, I wasn’t a massively into it, it felt too stiff and plank-like for the length I was riding which was short and I’m not light. Anyhow, I think you want a board with a ww of about 26 to 26.2cm. What kind of terrain are you riding, what’s you ability, weight, and what kind of stiffness do you like your boards to be? Perhaps I can point you towards a board you might like. Rich

D on August 25, 2011 at 11:41 AM

Well, I’m looking for an all out jib machine,something to lap the park all day….mostly at the dome.I already have a rome mod wide for the mountain,so was lookin for something softer and more playful.I tried my friends YES 156 and loved it…felt like a skateboard!...I was also checkin out the rossi jibsaw, looks sick and I can get a deal on it but so far have heard nothing about it :/ I’m no lightweight at 200lbs and would like something with a softer flex & pop…but not signal park noodle soft.I’m tempted by the ftw if it’s a great board as I won’t be throwin down any euro carves on it.

Rich Ewbank on August 25, 2011 at 12:31 PM

You’ll be pleased to hear we reviewed the Jib Saw. I’, telling you the JIb Saw is going to blow up big time although it’s perhaps not as soft as you were hping for, it’s more a medium flex really and the profile is only slightly rockered, the majority of it is cambered. It’s really a high end slopestyle snowboard, although it’s pretty damn hot on the jibs too. The 158mW would fit your stats perfectly.Of course there are the normal park focused reverse camber boards like the K2 Parkstar, Ride DH2 and Kink and the NDK Advanced. You might also like to hold-out a little and look at the Arbor Blacklist whic gets released next season. It’s a mid-wide board, about 26cm at the waist and has a super playful parabolic rocker as well as grip-tech along the deges for dealing with icy snow dome landings. It comes in a 154, 157 and 160. Check-out the write-up on its slimmer brother the Westmark if you’re interested.

milly on August 25, 2011 at 11:02 PM

I was in precisely the same place that you are D when I started looking at something a bit jibbier and softer and because I’m built for comfort and not for speed (i.e. I don’t walk past many pie shops), I can get some decent presses and flexes from the HH whereas Capita’s Horrorscope, Eneavor’s Colour and K2’s WWW were pretty much creasing up on me due to my weight and their rocker profiles.

If I had some hindsight, I would have gone for a 157 HH not the 154 (just for a bit of psychological benefit) because I felt a bit unsure on it on some of the more hard packed groomers out there.

And if I’d had the opportunity to, I would have tried Capita’s Indoor Survival FK or their Ultrafear.

But, that being said, I have a pair of 10UK on the 154, running 15/-15 and I get no over hang and apart from a bit of washing out on frozen groomers I’ve loved every single minute on this board.

As for the jibstick, I would be a bit more generous than Rich and think it’s built to last rather than it being a plank :).  But, it is definitely not as soft as you would think, and seems to have been built to hit the gap to rails that a lot of street kids do.

I’m also interested to see the view of the Snowboard Review team on the FTW, as even though I’m not in the market for one, it’s good to see a true independent struggle/carry on in a declining market.

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