Posted: 06 November 2009 07:08 PM
Hey I am from Germany, an I’m actually interested in a new Board too
I am 5’7 tall and weight 160 pounds. I’m on the Board since 2002 :)
You were talking with Mike in the other thread about some interesting boards, as for example the Signal Omni.
My Question is: Can you explain me the difference between the wavelength technology of Signal and the RC/ C2 BTX technology of Never Summer and Lib tech. I know that the Omni has Chamber between the bindings and a rocker to tip and tail. The Technology of Lib and NS is with a Rocker between the binding and Chamber out of it. So it’s exact the other way round.
What means this when you ride the board. How do they work in powder, in icy conditions or in the park ?
Greets
Chiller
Posted: 06 November 2009 07:58 PM
Hi Chiller,
We got a lot of peeps from Germany using the site… it’s awsome, and you guys write such good English! I’m learning German at evening classes at the moment and I can tell you it’ll be long time before I’m writing emails, what with all the der, die and das!
To answer your questions, there’s an explanation of the different types of rocker at the bottom of the basics page in the snowboard guide. You’re right, there are essentially 2 types of rocker camber hybrid, either the board is rockered between the feet and cambered at the tip and tail (Lib Tech C2 banana, NS RC tech, Nitro Gullwing) will call that ‘type 1’ or the board is cambered between the feet and rockered at the tip and tail (Rossi Amptek, Nidecker Camrock, Signal Wavelength), ‘type 2’. The main difference is their abbility in powder and their pop, both boards have a camber of some description, by being pressed with this kind of bow tension, they hold a crave better, and both have the start of the effective edge raised slightly so they feel less catchty, but if you’re an experienced ride you won’t really notice much of a difference.
In powder I’ve heard reports that ‘type 1’ has a tendancy to nose dive a little, however, type 2 has a raised nose and tail so they float much better than cambered boards. Butterings and landings are more forgiving on ‘type 2’ as the nose and tail are rockered so off centre landings get buttered round, but because they’re rockered you loose the pop you get from camber, this is where type 1 benefits, the camber in the tip and tail give you super pop!
So to put it simply I’d say if you want a comprimise between rocker and camber, but want more of the qualities of a rockered deck; butteryness, forgiving landings and float in powder, then go for type 2. If you ride more big jumps and halfpipe and need super pop but want your deck a little looser than a standard cambered board, go for type 1.
It’s like this:
Grip & Pop—————-Forgiving, float in powder
Camber - type 1 - type 2 - Rocker
Hope that helps
Rich
Posted: 07 November 2009 09:21 PM
Thank you, you helped me very much.
I think most of the time I’ll be on the slope, but when it’s possible i love to powder too. Maybe 10% of the time I will be in the park, doing tricks etc.
I also like to carve down the hill with a high speed, and the board should stay stabil.
So I think the type 1 (Lib tech, Never Summer etc.) would be a little bit better for me, what do you think ?
Posted: 08 November 2009 12:12 AM
Sounds like the right choice. From my experience the NS boards are a bit more aggresive than the Lib-Tech boards… so if you want the softer and more playable of the two go for a lib tech. Hope that helps
Rich
Posted: 09 November 2009 08:30 PM
Thanks for the advice. I am especially interested in the Lib tech Travis Rice. I would take the 153, do you know this board, an what do you mean which size would be the best for me ?
Posted: 09 November 2009 09:03 PM
I rode the 157 and really enjoyed it. Tons of grip, even in the pipe, a poppy but not crazy aggresive flex. Nice in a carve and lively out of carves… can’t really fault it, especially with the Eagle graphics, although Zoryfl doesn’t like the Eagle. Good board if you want to ride everything on the hill. As far as the length goes, it depends on what you want to ride, if it’s mostly park then ride the 153, if you want to ride pow and pipe and blast around the piste full tilt, then I’d go for the 157… worth noting that the waist is mid-ish wide, about 25.8cm so if you’ve got small feet beware.
Posted: 09 November 2009 10:09 PM
I think the the 153 has 25,3 in the mid-waist. Do you think it’s too wide for me (bootsize ca. 9,5) ?
Posted: 09 November 2009 11:00 PM
I do have an US 8.5 Nitro Team TLS ‘10 boot with 25cm waist width which is almost perfect I’d say.
So 25,3 and US 9.5 should be okay, as well.