Posted: 01 May 2012 04:40 AM
I’m a 9 year snowboarder, very on and off looking for a board that I can take all over the mountain but has a buttery flex for groomed runs. I’ve been riding a Ride Dose 159 with Burton Cartels the last 2 years and have decided it’s a little too stiff and big for me. I’m 5’8” and 165 lbs. with size 10 boots. I’ve done a pretty good amount of research and brands I’ve really looked into are Yes, Bataleon, Stepchild, Rossignol, and Capita.
With Yes I looked into the Jackpot 155, with Bataleon I’ve looked at the Riot 154 and the Whatever 156, with Rossignol I looked at the Angus 155, and the two boards I’m most set on is Capita’s Ultrafear FK 155 and Stepchild’s Powder Sucks 155.
I every now and then ride park but I mostly ride blacks and tree runs and hit a lot of natural features. Stability at high speeds is also very important to me but i wanna be able to butter pretty easy too. I think a reverse camber board is the way to go and I think all the boards I listed are reverse camber so I wanted to see how those boards would stack up against each other with the type of riding style I have.
Any helps appreciated!
Posted: 06 May 2012 05:10 AM
The Bataleon Whatever is a pretty soft board, especially for an all mountain board. I got the chance to demo it, It was a lot of fun to say the least. Decently soft too.
If you have ever felt the flex in the Bataleon Airobic, its pretty similar. middle is a little softer in the Airobic.
I would say this is one of your best bets for Soft all Mountain board.
Posted: 06 May 2012 05:55 AM
Oh okay cool I thought the Whatever was more on the stiffer side so I’ll definitely have to look more into it. Thanks!
Posted: 06 May 2012 07:25 AM
I looked up Bataleon’s line up for 2013 and saw their new board the Global Warmer. Its supposed to be a great freestyle board and they said that it’ll be real flexy but but they put carbon stringers into the board horizontally to provide good stability while carving. Just wondering if you’ve heard of it and if it could be a better pick than the whatever.
Posted: 07 May 2012 03:36 AM
The Global warmer is going to be there High End Jib board, its gonna be a more park focused board.
It would be a really fun board for jibs and small jumps, but I am not sure if it will work out best for what you want. I currently am riding the Bataleon Disaster, its gonna be like that board but with some more technology put in it for Park.
You may look into booth, but I would try the Whatever first, maybe Demo it.
Bataleon has some awesome boards coming out for the 2013 season! I would check into them and see whats in store. But also watch out for some deals on this seasons boards since its pretty much over.
Posted: 07 May 2012 03:47 AM
Also about the reverse camber, you said you think all that boards you listed are reverse camber, but Bataleons are all Camber, and TBT, I am pretty sure you know what TBT or tripple Base Technology is, if not, research it and check it out, its pretty amazing stuff.
Posted: 07 May 2012 05:45 AM
Yeah I went onto Bataleons website and I don’t think a board like the disaster would do it for me. I read up a little more on the TBT Bataleon uses cause I’ve never really looked into it and it sounds like some awesome stuff. The freestyle TBT sounds like the flavour of TBT I’d want and they have it with the Whatever. The whatever also had a flex rating of 7 on Bataleons scale, 10 being the softest, which sounded like a perfect flex so I’m pretty set on the whatever. I saw Bataleons 2013 graphic for the whatever and I like this years graphic better so I’m hoping I can find the whatever 20% off or something like that out there. Thanks for the help!
Posted: 07 May 2012 05:58 AM
One more thing how would you compare the whatever with Bataleons fun.kink? They’re both in the freestyle/whatever category but the fun.kink has a flex of 8. I almost think that’d be too flexible for all mountain but if it’s basically just as good as the whatever but slightly softer I’d probably rather go with the fun.kink.
Posted: 07 May 2012 11:32 AM
There are a couple of things difference between the 2
The Whatever has:
Lightening Edges-Sharp edges for hard turns and Carves
Core Core-Poplar wood board down the middle with hardwood enforcements along the insert packs.
The Fun.kink has:
Hammer Edges-Thick beefy edges to ensure no damage. (alot of jibbers would like this for banging into rails)
The Tough Core-Made with chips of wood all glued together for a soft but strong board.
These are the 2 technical difference you can find on the site.
I also had looked into the Fun.kink before buying my Disaster, I do love both, but for my All Park needs, i stuck with the Disaster, For you the Fun.kink may work better between the Disaster and Fun.kink.
But there is such a thing as too soft! I would worry a little that the Fun.kink will be too soft to be unstable at high speeds. Bataleon Rates it as an 8/10, or a 2!
the Whatever is rated 7/10, or a 3.
I hope this helped. Always look into whats in the board and the specs they put up about each, some of those details are the most important!
Good luck my friend!
Posted: 07 May 2012 02:28 PM
Oh okay I had thought that the whatever and the fun.kink had the same technologies put into it but i guess i shouldve actually looked at it all. The whatever definitely has the more all mountain edge that would benefit me a little more. I’d definitely say that the fun.kink would lean more towards the park side for a freestyle board but I’m hoping the tough core would be enough to handle my out of the park riding. But since it’s flex is as high as an 8, or low as a two, it makes me pretty unsure about it. All the videos I’ve seen about it described it as a all mountain but really park focused board. If that cores strong enough I think it’d be a really fun board to bring everywhere on the mountain. I just might have to cool down a little bit when it comes to going fast but I feel like it’d be fine with how fast I usually go. Thanks for all the help though man you really flip-turned my decision! I don’t think I’d really want a board that’s not bataleon anymore!
Posted: 07 May 2012 06:50 PM
Your welcome, always glad to help.
Keep in mind. TBT will take some time to get used to. Give it atleast 2 full runs of just edge to edge cruising.
Once you get the feel of it, your never gonna want to put it down.
Posted: 07 May 2012 09:37 PM
Yeah I figured I’d have to get used to it but just like you said it sounds like something that’ll be crazy fun to
ride on, can’t wait. Thanks man!